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Matrix incorrect, I hate wiki tables, and I'm going to work in 5 minutes.
Anyone feel like colorcoding the table? Pretty difficult to understand at the moment. [[User:Joshu|Joshu]] 10:27, 14 June 2006 (CDT)
 
Also, is it really neccessary for it to be symmetric across middle? Should probably eliminate half so it has less redundant content. [[User:Joshu|Joshu]] 10:28, 14 June 2006 (CDT)
 
 
it's rather easy to make the table look nice, go [http://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp here] for the best way to do it, or go [http://www.w3schools.com/html/default.asp here] for the easier way --[[User:Sppt|Sppt]] 11:39, 14 June 2006 (CDT)
: I'm very familiar with how to make internet thankyouverymuch, I just totally can't be stuffed... even though I _did_ just do the new color update. --[[User:Joshu|Joshu]] 04:23, 15 June 2006 (CDT)
 
 
I've been trying to think of a way to remove the redundancies, but have not come up with a better sollution than only listing strong combos. if 1/2 the list is removed, it becmomes hard to see what all the options r for one item as u have to read a row & a column both. --[[User:Uzetaab|Uzetaab]] 11:52, 14 June 2006 (CDT)
 
Uzetaab, i've putted in these colored rows so it is at least a bit better readable :) --[[User:Sppt|Sppt]] 11:55, 14 June 2006 (CDT)
 
How about some definitons of strengths? I propose:
16 - Very strong
12 - Fairly strong
8 - Fairly weak
4 (does this exist?) - Very weak
 
~Sporhund 21:30, 14th June 2006 (GMT +1 DST)
 
 
Sporhund, afaik it can only be "fairly weak" or "fairly strong".<br>
Get 10 skill and use the lore method. The power is also a result of your skill (am I right?). While you got 16 with rosemary+tooth, you could also have got 12.<br>
--[[User:Helge|Helge]] 16:00, 14 June 2006 (CDT)
 
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Ok, I've found 2 entries in the table that are not correctly registered on both halfs:<br>
(Row - Coloum)
* <del>Corn - Onion: Fairly weak</del>
* <del>Corn - Sassafras: Fairly weak</del>
* <del>Sassafras - Eye: Fairly weak</del>
 
Unfortunately I currently have neither Corn nor Eye. Can anyone confirm the connection?<br>
I'll start color-coding the table by changing "fairly strong" background color to #00FF00<br>
--[[User:Helge|Helge]] 16:07, 14 June 2006 (CDT)<br>
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Color-coding done!<br>
I'm removing the unconfirmed entries...(CANCELLED IN LAST MOMENT - Thanks for fixing Eaglef :) )<br>
--[[User:Helge|Helge]] 16:14, 14 June 2006 (CDT)
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If just I had Bladder, Corn and Eye I could've completed the entire table :-/ hmm well...<br>
--[[User:Helge|Helge]] 16:47, 14 June 2006 (CDT)
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Could someone please confirm <del>Parsley + Bladder?</del><br>
--[[User:Helge|Helge]] 21:24, 14 June 2006 (CDT)
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aw crap :( red mushroom can not be mixed, but black can. I don't have time to edit the table again atm. --[[User:Uzetaab|Uzetaab]] 22:47, 14 June 2006 (CDT)
 
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Any thoughts on the "fairly weak" color? Better than using the same color as the no-effect squares. --[[User:Joshu|Joshu]] 04:23, 15 June 2006 (CDT)
 
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Does anyone else think the old colors for "fairly weak" were better? I think it should be changed back. Besides, the new colors make editing a bigger trouble and it's not hard to spot the empty cells without.<br>
<del>'''We still need confirmation whether Parsley + Bladder is fairly weak!'''</del><br>
--[[User:Helge|Helge]] 06:05, 15 June 2006 (CDT)
: BRING BACK 20:33, June 15, 2006! :( --[[User:Joshu|Joshu]] 07:23, 15 June 2006 (CDT)
 
 
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It seems like the different ingredients have fixed values.<br>
I will try and collect a list and test them. I've a lot info from Celdur about it.<br>
 
* Rosemary + Sage = 12 (strong)
* Tooth + Sage = 12 (strong)
**> Rosemary = Tooth
* Rosemary + Tooth = 16 (strong)
**> Rosemary = 16/2 = 8
**> Tooth = 16/2 = 8
**> Sage = 12-8 = 4
* Nettles + Sage = 9 (weak)
**> Nettles = 9-4 = 5
* Nettles + Parsley = 6 (weak)
**> Parsley = 6-5 = 1
* Paw + Sage = 7 (weak)
**> Paw = 7-4 = 3
* Black Mushroom + Rosemary = "supreme" (failed application, no power number) --[[User:Joshu|Joshu]] 08:52, 18 June 2006 (CDT)
 
It seems like
* power < 12 = fairly weak?
* power >= 12 = fairly strong
 
Hmm... I better start working one something big :P<br>
I think we'll soon no longer need a table.
--[[User:Helge|Helge]] 15:14, 15 June 2006 (CDT)
 
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i dont know if this helps, but i have gotten a 70ql healing cover (made from deer tail and lion paw)
i dont know how to define strong or weak but i think 70ql is pretty strong.
 
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yellow mushroom can also be mixed.
 
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I will add how to identify if a cover if weak or strong --[[User:Kanif|Kanif]] 15:01, 18 June 2006 (CDT)
 
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I could have sworn that yellow mushroom doesn't combine. r u sure? --[[User:Uzetaab|Uzetaab]] 06:28, 19 June 2006 (CDT)
 
== Cleaning up ==
 
Some of the informations on this page is out of context. The content specific to ''how to make a healing cover'' should be in [[Healing Cover]]. --[[User:Kanif|Kanif]] 15:48, 18 June 2006 (CDT)
: Hmm, specific to ''how to make a healing cover'' eh? That's, hm, maybe just the entire facking page. --[[User:Joshu|Joshu]] 04:27, 19 June 2006 (CDT)
 
Maybe the ''Healing Cover Howto'' should be in it's own page. --[[User:Kanif|Kanif]] 16:24, 18 June 2006 (CDT)
 
== Matrix incorrect, I hate wiki tables, and I'm going to work in 5 minutes. ==
 
The table needs editing, and I don't have the time to do it.
 
:Looking at my widdle multiplication table, it stands to reason that Lovage should be exhibiting the same behaviour as Rosemary. I don't have the time to edit the table, could someone please do it so that Lovage x (BlueMR, Eye, GreenMR, Nettles, Paw, Rosemary, Tooth) are strongs?
 
:Also, does anyone care to add Unicorn Horn, which is purportedly the same strength as a BlackMR? (if you do, mark UnicornHorn x BlackMR = VERY strong(25))
 
:Double also, Rosemary x Paw != Strong, iirc. Should be an (8), which is weak.
 
:Triple also, GreenMR should exhibit the same stats as Rosemary, can someone fill out that section of the matrix (lol.) appropriately?
 
Test this all beforehand if you really want. Thanks. --[[User:Joshu|Joshu]] 16:40, 5 July 2006 (CDT)
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